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Brian Lovin

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In this week's episode we dive into the murky waters of designing social proof in social networks. From upvotes to view counts, reputation to badges, there are a wide array of tools and patterns at a designer's disposal to communicate quality and popularity. But these patterns each have their own drawbacks, tradeoffs, and vectors for abuse. We dig into these, and more. Plus, as always, we share our cool finds for the week, this time featuring a Figma plugin and a beautiful indie video game.

In this week's episode we dive into the murky waters of designing social proof in social networks. From upvotes to view counts, reputation to badges, there are a wide array of tools and patterns at a designer's disposal to communicate quality and popularity. But these patterns each have their own drawbacks, tradeoffs, and vectors for abuse. We dig into these, and more. Plus, as always, we share our cool finds for the week, this time featuring a Figma plugin and a beautiful indie video game.

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Additionally, last week Brian was able to share what he's been working on for the past few months: [GitHub for mobile](https://github.com/mobile)! Rafa and Kevin over at [Layout](http://layout.fm/episodes/156) also discussed the app on their most recent episode. 

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### **Industry talk:**

This week we dive into the murky waters of designing for social proof: the inputs, signifiers, and patterns that help people determine what is "popular" online.

- Instagram is [experimenting with hiding like counts](https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/14/tech/instagram-hiding-likes-globally/index.html) which may have implications for [influencer marketing](https://www.emarketer.com/content/hiding-likes-on-instagram-could-change-influencer-marketing-for-the-better-marketers-say). 
- Facebook tried to capture more emotional nuance when they [added reactions to the like button](https://medium.com/facebook-design/reactions-not-everything-in-life-is-likable-5c403de72a3f).
- In 2015, Twitter [killed favorites in favor of likes](https://www.theverge.com/2015/11/3/9661180/twitter-vine-favorite-fav-likes-hearts). 
- On our [episode with Pablo Stanley](https://spec.fm/podcasts/design-details/311543), we discussed the potentially harmful impact of having a handful of things you create go viral.
- Stack Overflow has a robust [reputation system](https://stackoverflow.com/help/whats-reputation) that aims to provide an accurate representation of any given's persons contributions to the community.
- Quora uses [Credentials](https://help.quora.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005507963-What-are-Credentials-on-Quora-) to communicate the experiences and achievements of any given writer on the platform.
- Basecamp uses a feature called [Boosts](https://m.signalvnoise.com/introducing-boosts-an-all-new-way-to-show-your-support-in-basecamp/) to help people provide higher fidelity feedback than a like button can offer. Brian misspoke and called this feature "kudos." 

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### **One Cool Thing:**

- Brian shared the [Vectary Figma Plugin](https://www.figma.com/c/plugin/769588393361258724/Vectary-3D) which helps you apply your designs to 3-dimensional product mockups. Its _very_ cool.
- Marshall shared [Hollow Knight](https://hollowknight.com), a beautiful and outstanding indie game that everyone should play. It's very challenging, but offers a simple onboarding experience which helps people ramp up as they go.
	- Brian and Marshall got a kick out of watching a [reaction to a Hollow Knight speed run world record](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjpCY800xjE). 

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