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For our 50th episode we sat down with Steph Monette and Liam Campbell, developers at Mule Design, to chat about CSS, startups versus agencies and the state of tech in San Francisco.

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Show Notes:

3:00 - NPR

5:00 - Introductions

6:00 - What are you working on?

12:00 - Hyphens vs. Underscores

26:00 - Startup culture

51:00 - What are you excited about?

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